Comments on: LEGISLATIVE WHITE-OUT: Mini-Victory For Gun Rights Exposes Sloppy Work By The Legislature https://coloradopeakpolitics.com/2013/07/15/legislative-white-out-mini-victory-for-gun-rights-exposes-sloppy-work-by-the-legislature/ Colorado's Conservative Bully Pulpit Wed, 17 Jul 2013 11:30:17 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.4 By: Steve Rollins https://coloradopeakpolitics.com/2013/07/15/legislative-white-out-mini-victory-for-gun-rights-exposes-sloppy-work-by-the-legislature/#comment-11224 Wed, 17 Jul 2013 11:30:17 +0000 http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/?p=13482#comment-11224 First of all any addition by the governor upon signing makes the legislation null and void, HE ALTERED OR EDITED THE LEGISLATION, that is an unconstitutional act in and of itself. Why has no one challenged this in any court? Seriously, if this were lawful, he could alter any legislation that appears pn his desk to fit what he sees as the LAW. The state Constitution does not give him authority to alter legislation when signing into law PERIOD!

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By: Robert Pryor https://coloradopeakpolitics.com/2013/07/15/legislative-white-out-mini-victory-for-gun-rights-exposes-sloppy-work-by-the-legislature/#comment-11223 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 21:28:02 +0000 http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/?p=13482#comment-11223 Unfortunately, this 'legislative white-out' has just made magazines that WERE legally modified prior to the law going into effect, illegal if they now hold more than 15 rounds. They are not grandfathered in.

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By: John Carder https://coloradopeakpolitics.com/2013/07/15/legislative-white-out-mini-victory-for-gun-rights-exposes-sloppy-work-by-the-legislature/#comment-11222 Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:51:45 +0000 http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/?p=13482#comment-11222 Bloomberg knows what's good for the rest of us.

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By: Quark Hadren https://coloradopeakpolitics.com/2013/07/15/legislative-white-out-mini-victory-for-gun-rights-exposes-sloppy-work-by-the-legislature/#comment-11221 Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:42:35 +0000 http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/?p=13482#comment-11221 Poorly written, unenforceable as written, and written without consulting people who know what the terms used mean.Arrogance. This is exactly the reason I opposed these new laws and why I support recall of Giron. Fields even admitted in a television interview she had no idea about magazine construction. From my district, Giron and Hickenlooper were both told the flaws in the bills but ignored the information and chose to make them law.

The flaws in the the ammunition law are covered in this article. But the background check law is also stupid and does nothing to target the problem – indeed actually ignores the problem.

For example, the background check law makes a criminal of the seller if they transfer a gun when a buyer fails the background check. But, in the new laws, nothing happens about the buyer if they try to buy a gun and fail the background check. If the legislators were serious about addressing the real problem – criminals and the mentally ill – the background check law could have been made more effective by simply adding in a requirement for action against people who were trying to buy a gun but failed the background check. It is a logical 'next step' and there is no reason it should not be included.

There is no requirement for referral to or action by law enforcement if a person legally prohibited from possessing a gun tries to buy one. Why in the world would anyone support a law that carries no provision for arresting a criminal actively trying to buy a gun? There is no referral to social services if a person fails for mental health reasons – they are trying to buy a gun – which is supposedly the thing we are worried about – but the law completely ignores the 'red flag' warning. Why would anyone support a law that does not seek to help (or stop) a person who has been flagged as dangerous if they own a gun – who is actively trying to buy a gun? If you think this legislation is good, think about that when you see the media report one day that someone who committed a murder with a gun had failed a background check – and nothing was done about it at the time. A warning was available, but no one acted on it because this legislation didn't require it. Instead, the laws simply make criminals of otherwise law abiding citizens. There is an opportunity to implement helpful legislation, but instead the law just does 'something.' It makes criminals of honest citizens and ignores the criminals and mentally ill.

Dangerous. Unproductive. Stupid.

Wouldn't the time our legislators spent on these ineffective laws have been better spent increasing penalties and enforcement on people actually using a gun in a crime? Look at any recent news report on people using guns to commit crimes. If they didn't actually kill anyone, they are back on the street within days.

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By: Cathy Gardino https://coloradopeakpolitics.com/2013/07/15/legislative-white-out-mini-victory-for-gun-rights-exposes-sloppy-work-by-the-legislature/#comment-11220 Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:33:37 +0000 http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/?p=13482#comment-11220 details…details… they only apply to those that govern by the rule of law… not to those that go with their 'emotions'…

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