With the frequency of flailing attacks left-wing Colorado Pols has been throwing out lately against the impending recall campaigns of Democratic Senators Hudak and Morse and Representative McLachlan, you might begin to wonder if they doth protest too much.
(Note to Michele Bachmann — it’s not “protestest too much“)
It makes you wonder if some on the left have polled the issue and are beginning to worry that a low-turnout recall election is more than just a minor annoyance.
Should any of the petition drives succeed, a recall election would likely be very low turnout, which would favor the highly motivated voter — something that gun rights supporters pretty much personify.
Of all the targets worrying about the recall drives, we’re betting Senate President John Morse is the one most concerned. There are a couple of reasons for this:
- The threshold for signatures is the lowest in his district of all the recalls, as the threshold is 25% of the votes cast in the politician’s last election. For Morse, that was the the low turnout, off-year of 2010.
- Morse’s Colorado Springs district is compact enough that gathering the signatures is considerably easier than, say, the rural Southwest Colorado district of Rep. Mike McLachlan.
- As Senate President, Morse has more responsibilities at the Capitol than other targets. That means the drainage of time and treasure that combating a recall campaign takes will do greater damage regardless of whether Morse survives. Should be interesting to see how much per diem Morse claims for the days he’s playing politics to defend his seat.
At the outset of the recall campaigns, Colorado Pols and liberals wrote them off as hopeless exercises in futility.
With the amount of ink spilled on the recalls recently, it seems safe to say the left is starting to take the possibility of losing their Senate President before next session starts pretty seriously.
With the amount of ink spilled on the recalls recently, it seems safe to say the left is starting to take the possibility of losing their Senate President before next session starts pretty seriously.
He shouldn't be surprised as a similar situation happened in Tennessee because another anti-gun politician(Debra Maggert) thought she knew what was best relating to guns instead of listening to her constituents. Some people just have hard heads but he should be rightfully concerned because if those voters care enough to go out and get the qualifying recall signatures he can be 100% sure they're gonna show up to vote him out this summer.
Jeffrey Schottler From a far away Island watching the Happenings in Colorado I hope that you are correct as Individuals we can each play a part in getting to the average citizen and requesting that they take part in their civic duties and go out and vote (unless they are known Liberals)
Every wonder why Democrats always get the young vote? http://bit.ly/12LNHpm
You cant stop the fraud that also took place in 2012 if no-one in power takes on the case.. Seriously, look at the voter turnout counts in Democratic stronghold counties , alot were 100 plus % of voters ..In Addition this latest law mailing ballots to all registered voters and being able to vote at any precinct is just more fraud in the works designed to keep liberals in power…
Hell yes they better worry because they are going to lose. See if morse wants to keep running his big mouth
sadly the govt thinks we are the problem and they want to control us they wont ever tell till u torture them not saying but they are the problem we should control them
Exactly. What is wrong with you people. The folks on the Left are our enemies so please get a clue and hold your fire on our people. Geeeez.
The majority of those you listen to, not necessarily a total majority.
I expect you find the recent billboards demeaning to Native Americans also
Ignore world history, but do so at your own expense,
David Brown "I can assuredly say, that pro 2A voters will be at the polls in full strength, along with everyone else who is disgusted with the things happening in our Colorado govt."
I certainly hope thats' the case David, as it is an absolute shame to see what has happened to the great state of Colorado recently.
B. J.
I had a big, full sized gun safe with six hunting rifles of various vintages, one handgun and one shotgun. I didn't get even one in the divorce. 🙁 I don't think guns are bad, but I don't want bad people to get guns. If I wanted to purchase another gun, I would hope that my gun purchase and ownership would be well regulated.
I don't support these laws at all because it is chipping away at my 2A rights. Slowly but surely it is ruining our country. It's pretty sad that I can't lend a rifle or handgun to someone I would trust for longer than 72hrs. Also, gun transfer via mail (of any kind) across state lines must go through an FFL for a back ground check…gun control act of 1968. Sure it can be done in state, but I don't know anyone who would do it. UPS and FedEx don't ship firearms from private individuals, and the United States post office charges exorberent fees. Plus it leaves you open to fraud. Most people only sell face to face, and verify residency via permit, DL, etc. A criminal isn't going to go through all of that hassle. They will either have someone else buy from a retailer and submit a false background check or buy one from a black market trader. Enact all the laws you want, your giving yourself a false sense of security. However I suggest you take a gun training course, see for yourself they aren't the big bad monsters you think they are, and maybe learn how to defend yourself. Cause laws will never fix crazy or stupid. You never know when someone will kill you with a pressure cooker. And honestly these laws will only lead to more incidents like that. Look at Iraq…they knew they couldn't fight us by traditional means, so they escalated the violence. That's what will happen here with criminals, and quite frankly I would rather face a gun and see who is the better shot than be blind sidded by a bomb.
Mike and Jeff… Could you sell your gun to a neighbor without running a background check on him/her? Could you buy a gun from an Armslist unlicensed, private gun seller and take possession of that gun without a background check? Yes and yes. Your claim that all gun sales in Colorado were subject to mandatory background checks is a false claim. Those private gun sales online and next door are a perfect example of why stronger background check laws were passed in Colorado… to close this loophole. Jeff… I am all for enforcing any gun laws. And, yes, let's put some funding and teeth back into gun law enforcement… let's beef up the ATF. I don't really understand why you feel "punished" by gun regulations. I do understand that it is inconvenient to give up your high capacity clip at a shooting range, and to pay $10 for a background check… but in the grand scheme of all things that punish us in this life, perspective should temper these feelings of frustration. We agree on stronger gun law enforcement, so at least that's one thing we got! I really want to understand where the passion for no reform comes from, but I still don't get it… sorry.
David Brown we were outgunned in November by fraud.
What a victory for common sense, if the voters could recall 3 whacko Dem leftists who seem hell bent on destroying the Constitution except of course for illegals and Islamists and progressive fat cats.
we need more volunteers for the morse recall. go to bfdf.org to help!
Jeffrey, you are probably right about the Independents but I can't see how so many Republicans, moderate or otherwise, couldn't know that if we get Obama, we get Obamacare and then to sit on that realization and not vote is appalling, not to mention disheartening. It could be because now, today, we get this poll that says 42% of Americans don't even know Obamacare is the law!! What is wrong with us? It doesn't make sense that Republicans were so stupid and uninformed. I thought we'd be so fed up the last election would be a landslide. So much stuff has happened that you'd think what Colorado Resistance said has to be correct. But nothing makes any sense anymore. Maybe if these recalls succeed that could goose us a little. Or they could steal the elections forever with their voter fraud bill.
David Brown I have done enough analysis to know for sure, but what I think happened in 2012 is there was too much apathy from moderate Republicans and many independents. They didn't like the choices but felt they can live with any of the outcomes so they stayed home. Like many states, the independent voters are really the driving force and Colorado is no different. That said, I believe a significant proportion of the Is are quickly getting fed up with the ultra left politics and law making going on. And certainly moderate Rs that succumbed to apathy last November and are very unhappy now won't do that again. Ironically, the Dem legislatures in CO think they are Teflon given how the last two elections in the state went. I think they are in for a surprise in November 2014. Maybe it's wishful thinking but even some in their own party feel they went too far this session.
Seriously…do some research on the topic first before you post your hear say. And yes…you are WRONG! You can't purchase any kind of firearm online and have it sent to you without passing a background check first. And the weapon must be shipped to someone with a FFL (Federal Firearms License, which is a gun shop or firearm dealer).
And we have no problem with keeping guns out of the hands of terrorists, felons, or the mentally ill. But there are already thousands of laws that cover those issues. Problem is that the government does not enforce them. Strawpurchasers are not prosecuted under the law, and even violent felons are released after just a few short years. How about you demand that the justice system starts prosecuting the criminals and handing down stiffer sentances istead of trying to punish the law abiding.
Karen yes you can go online and purchase a firearm, but then that firearm had to be sent to a gun dealer where you can go and pick it up after you …wait for it …. PASS A BACKGROUND CHECK . Plases take a few minutes to learn about the gun laws before you start suggesting new ones, just so you can feel better about yourself.
Karen Stone Woods Another thing, you figure out how to create a national database, as if we don't already have enough of those already, that can't be used as a national gun registry sometime in the future, then we can talk about national background checks. You might trust this government that has completely taken over control of your healthcare, but I sure don't.
Karen Stone Woods That's wrong. If you go online and purchase a firearm, first you pay for it and then it will be sent to a gun shop near you, where you must fill out the proper paperwork for a background check. "Common sense laws", "gun show loophole"… Karen, using idiotic language like that is what I call "drinking the Kool-Aid." 2% of all gun purchases are through gun shows and crime committed with guns has been steadily going down over the years, unless you live in Chicago of course. If you want to make this silly argument, then you must be willing to make the same argument about pressure cookers, because people don't kill people, pressure cookers do.
Yeah, well… I said the same thing about pro-America and pro-Constitution Republicans in the 2012 election. The joke turned out to be on me.
Jonathan, correct me if I am wrong, but I understood that a Colorado resident could go online and purchase an assault-type weapon without a background check before the new legislation… correct? Can we agree that felons, terrorists, and the mentally ill should be prohibited from gun purchases? That's what i'm "pushing." Can we agree that online sales, neighborhood sales, gun show sales, any gun transfer or sale be consummated with a completed background check? You are correct, I have been "ginned up" by the slaughter of 20 seven year old kids, but I'm not suggesting we ban all weapons. Regulate the sale and transfer of guns with common sense laws. Name three ways your quality of life has been diminished by these simple, new regulations for firearms.
It was already illegal for everything you listed to happen before these laws. Machine guns and rocket launchers are class 3 weapons and are incredibly restricted already. So with everything you fear already illegal then what are you really pushing? The new laws made owning standard size magazines illegal and most magazines are "readily convertible" so those are now illegal. and also only made lending a firearm or even giving a firearm illegal. Also the sheriffs of Colorado disagree with these laws some have even publicly stated they will not be enforced in their area of authority. So who is really being "ginned" if the majority of people who really care and know about gun laws do not want these? The answer is You. Read some of those links the other posters provided and educate yourself.
I hear you all. But here's the thing… are you really against common sense gun reform? Do you want terrorists, crazy people or violent felons buying assault weapons (or any gun) without a background check? At a gun show, online, from a neighbor? Do you support straw purchases? Do you think a citizen should be allowed to buy any type of weapon they want? Rocket launchers? Machine Guns? If you can answer no to any of these questions, then you are NOT really opposed to common sense gun reform. I am suggesting that the government is not out to grab your guns and that we (the government) just want some common sense reforms to protect some of the people, some of the time. Based on your comments, you all understand the desire to protect the people we love. I respectfully suggest that you are being "ginned" up by an industry whose very purpose is to sell you more guns. Just suggesting. Thank you for your thoughtful responses and for not threatening me. Bravo.
The CORA data says about 97% of people responding to the governor's office were against any of the legislation Karen. We were ignored due to influence exerted from out of state. This is a systematic and incremental effort to diminish American rights. If you think otherwise, then you are kidding yourself. And it isn't just the 2nd under attack. California just allocated $24 million to support 4th Amendment violations to confiscate guns. Obama just announced publicly that he wants to create a "new legal regime" to circumvent the 5th Amendment to indefinitely detain people because of the likelyhood that they might commit a crime. What other rights are you willing to let them step on Karen? How about the 1st amendment? Should you need a permit or license to speak your mind? How about limiting FB or blog posts to 10-15 words. BAN HIGH CAPACITY POSTS! American freedom is being diminished. More and more power is being shifted to the hands of the government so that they and their corporate masters can profit further on the fruits of our labor. Please to everyone on both sides of the aisle, open your eyes, seek divergent perspective, look outside of your comfort zone. We all have different viewpoints, but at the end of the day we are all Americans and need to focus on the guidelines and principles laid out that have made this country great for 250 years. We are the last bastion of freedom on Earth. Fight for it, because once we go over the cliff, there is no going back.
Dan Bubis One of the reasons street cops and sheriffs oppose the magazine ban so strongly is they know how many rounds it takes for a home owner to take out multiple attackers. People like Karen Woods are completely naive about how quickly an attack can happen and how difficult it can be to stop it. All they know is Hollwood BS where the person that is shot flies through the air and hits the wall. I'm here to tell you that doesn't happen. And Karen, if you think having a gun only makes a home invasion worse, then http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheshire,_Connecticut,_home_invasion_murders
For the rest of the liberals who think 10 rounds is more than enough, think again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F1nPSNnaBo
And as someone who is volunteering for the recall, I can tell you that all we need to be successful is some more volunteers to cover her district. We are finding it EASY to get signatures. Our circulators sometimes have to politely decline offers to come in and have a glass of wine or some pie and ice cream. The most common response I hear is "I wish I could sign more than once!". I've had several registered Democrats come by on the sign-n-drives wanting to sign because they don't support her attack on the 2A and a woman's right to carry. Women are especially upset over the condescending remarks Hudak made to the rape victim who testified against the campus carry ban.
You can volunteer a few hours a week or spend several days helping out. It's up to you. As an introverted engineer, I thought volunteering would be out of my comfort zone, but it hasn't been that way at all. You can hold a sign at a sign-n-drive or collect signatures from the people who turn in wanting to sign. Or you can walk the district using a list of friendly Republican and Libertarian homes with people eager to sign. I'm really psyched over all the positive feedback we're getting from voters.
http://www.recallhudak.org
As I posted below, The numbers and people tried to speak but were railroaded by the agenda for people control posing as gun laws. I hope all recalls are successful, the reps do not listen to the people and have forgotten their place, THEY WORK FOR US not a party AGENDA! We need to get rid of Chickenlooperand the rest of them for gross violation of both State and US Constitutions! Here are the numbers from below: (repost) It's pretty sad when people don't check the facts. According to the CORA report for Communications from Colorado Constituents to the State, a total of 22,412 responses for/against HB's 13-1224,26,28,29 covering(respectively) Hi cap mags, Concealed Carry on College campuses, personal payment for Background checks, Background checks for private transactions. The total number FOR the passage of these bills 720, Total undecided 24, Total AGAINST the passage of these bills 21,668! THE PEOPLE TRIED TO SPEAK and were Railroaded, The State Sheriffs' Association 62 of 64 tried to speak and were IGNORED BY THE REPS, they passed anyway! Sorry Karen Stone Woods, you are absolutely Incorrect, the MAJORITY clearly shows that people were AGAINST these bills!
It's pretty sad when people don't check the facts. According to the CORA report for Communications from Colorado Constituents to the State, a total of 22,412 responses for/against HB's 13-1224,26,28,29 covering(respectively) Hi cap mags,Concealed Carry on College campuses, personal payment for Background checks, Background checks for private transactions. The total number FOR the passage of these bills 720, Total undecided 24, Total AGAINST the passage of these bills 21,668! THE PEOPLE TRIED TO SPEAK and were Railroaded, The State Sheriffs' Association 62 of 64 tried to speak and were IGNORED BY THE REPS, they passed anyway! Sorry Karen Stone Woods, you are absolutely Incorrect, the MAJORITY clearly shows that people were AGAINST these bills!
My guess is Michael probably wasn't in Morse's old district prior to the decennial redistricting. Recalls use the district boundaries from the last election (2010). I'm unsure what the boundaries would be for the ensuing special election if the recall gathers sufficient signatures.
Karen Woods, take a look at this if you think this is all about inconvenience. Watch the whole thing and try to keep an open mind:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F1nPSNnaBo&feature=player_embedded#!
Got ReMorse? go to gotremorse.com and sign up to volunteer to help remove Morse from office for not listening to his constituents, changing senate rules and disenfranchising hundreds of Colorado citizens, trying to increase taxes by $1,000,000,000, subsidizing tuition assistance for illegal aliens, increasing energy costs for rural residents, and doing nothing to help our economy. His gun control push actually is costing us hundreds of jobs and millions of dollars in revenue. Help us RECALL MORSE!
What do his CONSTITUENTS want? That is the question. And since he refuses to even read our emails, he doesn't really know (except that he does because he intentionally did not read the 1000's of emails he received on the subject from us telling him that we did not want these laws). A legislator is supposed to represent THEIR constituents – not the rest of the state or the rest of the country.
Did you get gerrymandered out of his district?
Cali transplant. Why would you move here and and try to make Colorado just like the liberal $hithole Kalifonia?
I will be helping gather signatures!
Karen just for your reading pleasure if you even care reading something by some academics but gun control does not work additionally the United States has about 8 guns per 100 people where Honduras has about 7 guns per 100 people what is the death rate in the united states about 9 per 100,000 where in Honduras is about 64 gun murders per 100,000 does not add up does it well the same is repeated across the world but hey don't believe me you can review the Harvard study at this link; you will probably cherry pick it which is funny they went with the facts where you will turn the blind eye: http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf
I have seen insurgents hit with multiple 7.62MM rounds fired from an M240 machine gun in Iraq, and they still kept on coming. That was a fully automatic belt fed machine gun firing a more lethal round than a M4 fires, and they took multiple hits to put down. Most of you anti-gun people are so ignorant you don't even know how to insert a magazine, let alone operate the firearm. Stop being so damm scared and grow up and get your head out of your fourth point of contact.
http://www.recallhudak.com for the JeffCo Senator who totally dissed the rape victim who wanted to carry concealed. Anyone in the metro area can help gather petitions. Any gun store in Arvada has petitions.
She only won the seat by a couple of hundred votes. This senate seat is prime for recall.
Karen Woods obviously doesnt pay attention to any thing other than her own opinion. Every poll….including the attemped sham poll by the Denver Post slammed her opinion to the ground. Our State Legislators were bought and paid for by promises of support from Biden and Obama if they would ignore their Constituencies. Morse told his colleages to ignore their districts and push this stupid non enforcable legislation thru. These Legislators betrayed their district. Their oaths. They deserve to be recalled!
Karen, in your little world you may think the majority of people supported these new laws. I can tell you that everyone I have spoken to (over 100) have spoken out against them. These are just knee jerk reactions that will do nothing to stop the criminals. All they are doing is targetting law abiding citizens. Do you really think a criminal cares what laws they pass? You see how safe Chicago is, and they have the most restrictive gun laws in country. Instead of creating news laws that are not enforceable, they need to enforce the laws already on the books. Too bad I live in District 10 and not 11 otherwise my name would be on Morse's recall.
It is your constitutional right not to own a weapon if you so choose, but as stated above don't tell me what I need to defend myself or my family. The MSM is so one-sided it is pathetic. I really don't think there are any major news outlets that are worth listening to anymore. All these politicians are doing is trying to garner more votes to stay in office. They don't care about WE THE PEOPLE anymore. Those who think that way need to be removed from office.
Please don't presume to tell me what I do or do not require for self defense. I am happy to afford you the same courtesy. Ask Reginald Denny how many bullets he wished he had when he was nearly beaten to death by a mob during the LA riots. Ask Vicki Weaver how many rounds she needed to defend herself from agents sent by our own Federal Government. Oh, wait, you can't ask Vicki Weaver anything because she was shot in the head by FBI sniper Lon Horiuchi while holding her infant daughter. Shot through the front door of her own home.
Karen – most people do NOT support these bills. The media is speaking so loudly you can't hear everyone elsr.
who is this "majority" you speak of?
Limit cops weapons first. Tell them they can have no more than 10 rounds. Then we will talk. You won't win, but we can talk.
Wrong, the majority do not support any of these measures. There is no common sense to this legislation. The 100:1 turnout ratio pretty much proves that.
John Morse is a loser.
Ignorant
Morse stood in the way of our Democratic process…He allowed an out of state Celebrity to testify while keeping law enforcement and citizen input OUT!…The legislation is unenforceable and it is stupid…You Stand Down Karen Woods! We're recalling!
How stupid can you be? There are already background checks, there's no gun show loophole! Do you have any idea how many shots some bad guys take to go down? I have seen multiple times where a patient will have OVER 12 bullet wounds from POLICE and survive. How many do I need if a few thugs attack my wife or kids? More than enough. You can say people support anything without citing facts.
Sorry Ed, but the majority of Colorado citizens support background checks and lower capacity magazines. President Morse did the right thing and passed legislation supported by most people in this state. The groups telling you that your position is the position of the majority are lying to you. Stand down and see how your life doesn't change a bit because of this common sense legislation. No guns were grabbed because of these three new laws. All you need to do is learn to re-load a little faster. I think you can handle that.
well thanks to morse I can't sign the petition but if y'all get a recall election I will vote his ass out!
The recalls need to happen, the citizens of Colorado need to let the raw political power brokers know that they don't have a following when they go against the majority of the citizens for a selected few.
In a second point, stop trashing Republicans.. The other media does enough of that..
Bloomberg can't buy his way into the votes of Liberty seeking Citizen voters like he can the integrity of the Colorado Democratic legislators and Govenor.
Slamming Michelle Bachmann in this "article?" Could my party just please quit aiming the guns at our own feet?