Over at the hard-core lefty site Squarestate, they have a diary up titled The Ugly Truth About #OccupyDenver.
Fong, Squarestates head honcho and the diary's author pretty much confirms all of those dark rumors about the Occupy movement that have been going around.
A few quotes from the article:
“I've been on the PR team of Occupy Denver for about two months now and that involvement has shown me the underbelly of the beast. Keep in mind that everything I write below is just the the tip of the iceberg and understand that I write this because I'm tired of witnessing the consistent reckless behavior that puts innocent people at risk”
“Occupiers would set up tents during peak crowd hours with the intention of bringing in the cops to crack heads, in an effort to show the world that the police are brutal.”
“And then there was talk about a plan to burn cars for the Walmart blockade Monday morning.”
“So far I've seen ass-kissing, fear-mongering, death threats, theft, fights, using innocent people as a shield, lies about union endorsements, ulterior motives, lots and lots of messianic bullshit, and of course, shirking responsibility.”
and finally:
“I wish I could say good things. When people corner me about my involvement in OD, I feel bad that I don't have good things to say.”
When you have a doctrinaire lefty like Fong cutting loose like this on the movement, you have to wonder what makes anyone think that anything positive was ever going to come out of the juvenile and illegal antics that were part and parcel of Occupy right from the start.
Here is a clue for those on the left that supported Occupy Denver. When you start out with no regard for the law, why the hell should you be surprised when all there is around you is lawlessness!
will always be disgusted. It’s an inevitable part of superior intellect. And as anyone knows, the more left you are, the more intelligent you are.
Don’t try to argue. You’ll just prove my point 😉
So thank you for calling me a hard-core leftist. I appreciate that.
And, btw, the protest is against the lawlessness and disregard for reality. Your last sentence is off, to say the least. I think it would do you some good to pay attention to what I wrote, and not try to twist it to fit that inconsistent mold with which you shape your world and attempt to hold your readers captive.
You say you are protesting against the lawlessness and disregard for reality at Occupy Denver. It’s pretty clear to us outside of the movement that those have been essential parts from the start. In other words, they aren’t a bug, they are a feature. Though I will give you massive props for speaking out against those who are for generating destruction and fear mongering. Revealing these things about a movement you have passion for couldn’t have been easy.
And being easily disgusted doesn’t necessarily indicate a higher intellect, it may mean a lower flexibility in dealing with ideas you don’t immediately agree with. 😉
Occupy Denver has actually degenerated into an orgy of Ayn Rand fantasies put into practice: Minimal governance, general anarchy, a cabal of self-serving miscreants dominating control of the social system to the disadvantage of the common good. So why are you guys criticizing it? It’s become a real-world experiment in the very sort of dystopia you continually prescribe for the entire country. Geez, you hard-core right-wingers just can’t make up your minds what you want, can you?
I don’t see a group of Randians. I see Anarcho-Socialists who don’t want to reform the system, they want to tear it down and replace it with whatever “perfect” social system they fantasize themselves at the top of. The problem is that such movements cannot possibly achieve any sort of success without widespread popular support from the general populace, and Occupy Wall Street doesn’t have that. They have been fading in popularity, and Fong’s post shows why.
it does disgust me. And it was hard in the sense that it further deflated my ability to trust those who claim to have a higher purpose.
For example, as OccupyDenver, I tweeted about Corey Donahue not participating in his own pointless Walmart blockade, and the response it solicited was everything that I criticize Republicans for. It was a bunch of clucking hens, incapable of taking responsibility for their own colonized minds and pulling any excuse out of their asses about how their anger at me is somehow legitimate. When I saw the perplexing fallout from reporting on something that actually happened, it reminded me so much of the right, that I instantly lost faith in their ability to lead. I don’t know if I could ever care about Occupy Denver again. There are too many stupid people down there. My experience was almost identical to my experiences that alienate me from the Right.
A “reposted with permission” tag.
No, there’s nothing illegal about this, but poor internet etiquette is something to expect from this site. Cologeek, however, I would expect better.
You do know that you’re basically railing against the First Amendment when claiming that there’s “no regard for the law” in protesting, though, don’t you? I’m not a constitutional scholar, but I do know that it trumps camping laws.
Cologeek takes what, six sentences, out of the post? It’s fair use because Cologeek uses the quotes to make his/her own point. If they copied and pasted the entire article that would be different.
When was the last time you saw ColoradoPols mention their huge block quotes (way more than six sentences) were copied with permission? Oh yeah…never. They lift other people’s work more often than Jayson Blair.
Never mind. I know what it says about you guys well enough.
Other than that, point taken. Sorry, cologeek. (And he’s a man, just for your info.)
And as to your comment about the First Amendment, I don’t believe that the First Amendment is about camping on public land, thereby depriving it’s use by others. I also don’t believe that it’s about blocking traffic on public streets or blocking employees and customers access to businesses. I consider those sort of tactics right up there with those the Phelps clan.
Blocking businesses or traffic aren’t protected by the First Amendment. Actions like that fall under the “civil disobedience” heading. Which is lawbreaking. We can argue whether those methods are effective or counter-effective, but that’s a different discussion.
But gathering in the park, even camping, is guaranteed under the First Amendment when it’s peaceable. It’s exactly the kind of gathering that was occurring at the Boston Massacre.
every time a conservative posts them. Otherwise, not so much.
And ColoradoPols is a bunch of hypocritical ass-wipes.
The quoted excerpts in this diary are well within any reasonable person’s definition of fair use.
If you’re going to try to rag on the Peak, can’t you at least find something legitimate to criticize? I mean geez, that ain’t exactly a tall order for anyone who has half a clue!
Sure, these people here at the Peak have some silly ideas, but at least they’re not a bunch of flaming assholes like you and the rest of the regular gang of gargoyles over at Pols.
Maybe you should go back and hide behind Ralphie’s apron strings for a few more years, Ari. You’re obviously not big enough to make it on your own in the real world yet.