2/19 UPDATE: Magpul responds regarding the Udall donation:
2/18 UPDATE 2: According to OpenSecrets.com, Magpul CEO Richard Fitzpatrick has made only one political donation to a Colorado politician: $500 to Senator Mark Udall in September 2012. Wonder if he’ll be seeking a refund?
2/18 UPDATE: Magpul recently posted to its Facebook page that their pull out threat is not a bluff.
UPDATE: Alfred Manufacturing, based in Denver, announced if HB1224 passed it would be forced to leave Colorado. From the Post‘s Kurtis Lee:
“We are a third-generation Colorado company that has been committed to this state since my grandfather founded the company in 1948,” Greg Alfred, the company’s chief executive, writes in the letter. “However, if House Bill 1224 passes, we will plain and simply have no choice but to relocate part or all of our operations to another state.”
Shortly thereafter, House Democrats passed HB1224 on a voice vote. Because….jobs.
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During the debate over HB1224, which would ban magazines that hold over 15 rounds, State Rep. Joe Salazar (D-Thornton) pushed an amendment too clever by half. An amendment which in effect said “we think that these magazines are immoral baby killers, but hey, feel free to sell your baby killing devices to other states.”
It was targeted at high capacity magazine manufacturer Magpul, which has threatened to leave Colorado if HB1224 passes, taking with it nearly 1000 jobs.
Reports The Denver Post‘s Kurtis Lee:
Under the legislation, manufacturers would be required to engrave each magazine with a serial number and date upon which it was produced — something Smith said is “burdensome and unnecessary.”
On Friday in initial debate over the bill, state Rep. Joe Salazar, D-Thorton, still offered an amendment that clarifies manufacturers could still sell high-capacity magazines to out-of-state vendors that range from the U.S. military to law enforcement.
“I want it to be clear that manufacturers can still do business here in Colorado,” Salazar said.
Republicans contested the amendment, calling it an “oops amendment,” and argued that it’s unfair that a company can produce the device, but can’t sell it in Colorado.
As we noted on Twitter:
You know what people intent on mass murder will never do? Drive to a neighboring state to buy weapons. #COleg
— Colo Peak Politics (@COpeakpolitics) February 15, 2013
There is a certain repugnant obtuseness in Salazar’s amendment. A disgusting arrogance, really, manifested by Salazar on behalf of the overlords in state government who, in effect, call companies like Magpul killers, while expecting them to just sort of take it and stay and do business.
Why would a company stay in a state whose very government impugns their product?
Salazar should apologize for such stupidity. High capacity magazines are either inherently evil or they are not. Trying to have it both ways is the latest proof that Democrats in the legislature are flying blind, pulled by the ears of high powered lobbyists funded by knucklehead mayors from far-away places.
I'd say come to Michigan, but even I don't want to be here.
Classic case of wanting your cake and eating it too… pleaseing the retards that think banning items and tools for law abiding citizens will fix the crazies that actually carry out these insane shootings… but we will still take your money and want you to support us… Magpull… I love your products and you as a company…and I assure you TENNESSEE will welcome you, and I'm sure you could get a sweet tax deal for the move… no state income taxes… and creating more jobs here… wooT! follow Ronnie Barrett 🙂 he did it and you can too!
If you do decide to leave I'll wait until you get to your new location and buy there and let them have my money and not Colorado. I was born and raised in Colorado and feel sorry that the state has gone the direction it has.
Hey Magpul, Come to beautiful Richfield, Utah. You will be loved and appreciated here!
So Magpul's CEO gave $500 to a slime-ball Democrat to whisper in his ear about how beneficial the company is to Colorado? Bad move! Suddenly, I don't have much sympathy for Magpul! And when Udall votes for a renewed "assault weapons ban" nationwide — which will KILL Magpul's magazine business — remember Fitzpatrick PAID FOR THAT with his contribution!
Move magpul to another state.
When is moving day?
They're not high capacity magazines….they're standard capacity magazines.
Move to Beaverton. You can partner with Gerber, CRKT, Leatherman, Benchmade, etc. Just go south of Multnomah County. Or move to Vancouver, WA, just across the river from Portland.
Salazar… 'nuff said.
Please come to Anderson, IN, I know of sevral nice buildings needing a tennant and the city will bend over backwards to have you…
It's funny how these gun grabbing liberals call firearm manufacturers killers and want to confiscate our guns, yet they want to use our tax dollars funding abortions? I just can't quite understand their thinking?
Aren't those laws they just passed unconstitutional? The 2nd amendment can't be changed, period. Ignor the laws they pass. Just asking.
Democrats oughta know ALL about the baby-killers THEY are. Liberal "Planned Parenthood" aborted 333,944 fetuses in 2011-12.
They made Pot legal but are going to outlaw any mag that holds over 15 rounds, what is going on in this country?
Voters need to vote. If you support these weasel politicians then re-elect them. If you don't like them then make them go away. Recall election? Impeachment?
I try not to be political but I've got to say this – liberals are destroying this country.
As someone who lived in Aurora for about a year back in 1996, I am saddened by this news. What a disgrace. I saw the influx of Californians way back then, about 100,000 every year, and now you have California 2. I have an idea… since DemoRATS don't give a flying F about the Constitution…. next time Republicans take control of the State lawmakers…make them pass new laws concerning the 1st Amendment and see what their arguments would be to prevent them. Similar laws that pertain to this current BS laws and other current laws in other blue states such as here in CT, NY and California…..
1- Limits on amount of protesters, you can only have 15 protesters, because who needs more than 15 protesters? You can get you point acoss with one speaker, no? Be lucky we will ALLOW you to have 15. Whenever you get more protesters, it always results in riots and property damage.
2 – Registration of all protests. You can not peacefully assemble without a permit that you applied for with a $100 application fee, with a 14 day cooling off period, as well as a required background check and fingerprinting that YOU need to pay for.
3 – All protestors who apply for a protesting permit must also show proof of protester liability insurance up to $1 million in converage from a government approved insurance agency. All applicants who file for the protests are responsbile for any damages that occur at said protests.
Lets see if Liberals wouldn't mind these "reasonable" limitations on the 1st Amendment.
I know FL's Gov Rick Scott is looking to bring new businesses to Florida. We have great w shooting weather year round & pretty good gun laws.
hey, I'll give you a good one,( exactly how many abortion's have been performed in your state? regardless what you call it, murder is murder! let's call it what it is! premeditated or not, there is no gray area here. it's black and white.) I'm all for pro-choice women's right's and all that, but after watching the debate online, I'm pretty sure those women appointed to sit there and draft this legislation,,, don't know their ass from a hole-in-the-ground. SEMPER-FI.
Magpul… I'm in Canada and have bought your products (even though our mags are pinned) – I will continue to buy Magpul and insure all my friends and family outfit our AR's with you parts as a show of Canadian support! Personally – 5 family members are getting Magpul gear and a few friends! Keep up the good work and stand your ground! Make those Anti-gunners pay for this!
Never bought any of their mags but that is all I will buy now
Come to Texas we would graciously except you into our state.
can we throw magazine at him…… or is that illegal too????
We in NH would love to have Magpul HQ here. Live free or die!
Tell them like Mr. David Crockett did, " You all may go to hell, I'm going to Texas"!
Why is that?
"We don't like what you're doing, but we'll take the money!" They can't have it both ways. They'll have to reap what they've sown. Kill 700+ Colorado jobs and accomplish nothing to prevent evil people from committing acts of violence. Two for two! High five!
I have to admit.. I am from Michigan and we are best suited for a company like Magpul.. But I would consider moving to Wyoming later in life..
You gotta home in Texas. Come on down we'd be glad to have you.
Love how the "Honorable" State Rep. Joe Salazar (D-Thornton) call these magazines "Baby Killers" when these are the magazines that the military uses defending his freedoms and ability to free speech…Wonder if he realizes the sons and daughters of this nation defending it's freedoms are represented by an "Honorable" man of his nature….remember "Baby Killers" being thrown around during another conflict called Vietnam. It's not the magazine or weapon it's the mentally unstable person that pulls the trigger, and once you see the real problem people in general will stop making ignorent statements like that but, just my "Opinion" on your 1st amendment free speach rights we protect serving and defending our country.
LOUISIANA WOULD WELCOME YOU! Plus we PARTY better! 😉
id donate but im from texas 🙁
West Virginia would love to be the New home for Magpul!
I hope you guys give them a big F you when you leave. Every year you can send them a letter and tell them how many millions they lost in revenue because they are stupid.
Just read Colorado did pass the bill…..Will Magpul stick to their word and leave?? I hope so.
MAGPUL of TEXAS, plenty of room guys. Come on over.
I wish that people wouldn't characterize that as a "party" position. You're really tossing out the baby with the bathwater with blanket statements like that. Let's be clear about this: those people who say"high" capacity magazines are inherently evil and need to be banned are radicals. Republicans have people who think gays cause tropical weather systems, Democrats have people who think "assault weapons" cause mass murder.
Come to Nevada! Just don't stay there.
PLEASE COME TO WISCONSIN OUR GOVERNOR GOT BALLS
Don't back down from this and give them hell. I'm actually going to follow suit as well and change my home of record from Colorado if this passes. I might still do it anyway because I don't like the direction the state has been headed.
Colorado was the one place that I really wanted to move back to after leaving the service. Loved everything about that state, now not so much 🙁
Wyoming, its the closest and MOST gun friendly state in the union.
I find it just tragically-hilarious when he says MAGPUL make baby-killing devices yet Id like to see his voting record on abortion and especially late-term abortion.
Waiting to see when the people will rise up and tar and feather these clowns.
I'm pretty sure culton will never leave denver
Greasing the politicians does not work. Shutting-off the money-faucet is the only thing that catches their attention. If Magpul is forced to move operations, the State of Colorado will never see another dime of my business….
Time to Go John Galt on their asses.
Tell'em to kiss ya'lls asses! They just bit the hand that protects and feeds them..If you guys stay it will send a message to other companies that this is ok and it's not.. This is what they wanted this is what they're getting.. Stay strong and move!!
While I live in PA we have too many anti gun people in charge who have too much influence and they usually come from the big cities like Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. I would hate to see a state like PA go the way of New York and California right after Magpul moved here. I would say move to a state that has already taken steps through state law to preserve firearm ownership and rights.
It always comes down to money, no matter what the law.
Obviously, most of us would love for you to move to their state. However, I just want you guys to get your business back grinding out Pmags :). From where is no big deal to me
Hey Colorado; Hear the SUCKING sound. That's Magpul and any other company that wants to leave taking their money, and their jobs to One of the FREE AMERICAN states. It won't cost them a dime to move either, even if one of those states can't afford to move them, they will get every red blooded American in their state with a truck to go to Your fine state and help Magpul pack up and transport all of their equipment to the new location.
Move out of there and let them cry, South Dakota will welcome you with open arms and tax incentives
Hey come to North West Alabama! We are starving for industries. We have a state of the art plant thats been sitting empty for the last 5 years. Has probably 3500 to 5000 sq ft of just office space. It has never had the first item built in it. We also have several Spec buildings sitting empty!
I say leave no matter what at this point just based on the fact that some dems think you guys are bluffing. Could set an example on the national level if it reaches a down the to wire vote.
While you consider moving to Texas, why not also add that Magpul will no longer sell to Law Enforcement or Gov Agencies in Colorado.
I hope you tell these scum to go to hell.
Those are the dumbest,most negative,liberal remarks I have ever heard!!!!!
SO where will Magpul move too ?
Come to Utah, we have some great facilities here for you, and we would be glad to have you here
Do "leftists" all drink from the same tainted water supply?
@ Magpul – F**K that! They basically said "we don't like you, but you can stay if you keep lining our pockets". Either time to grab the bull by the horns, or give 'em all the finger and pack up. That's BS.
What we all need to know…
How did they vote on these gun grabbing bills?
Did they try to rally others, or quietly sit there after taking money?
Ive seen politicians make public statements and do a 180 when it comes time to vote. We need to know the "roll call" on the votes.
Then publicly bash the ones that voted to pass the legislation as "economy assassins" in their home state.
nice, come to Texas magpul we will welcome you, your employees, your business and your product. And you will never have to worry about moving again!
I am impressed, this needs to grow. Share and keep it rolling we need more Industry leaders on-board. What they fail to realize is their is strength in numbers.Kudos to a good start and standing up.
You are welcome in South Dakota.
COME TO TEXAS! Kolorado is not the state you want to stay in. You do not want to stay in the PRK (Peoples Republic of Kolorado) . . . tell Komrad Democrat to dropsky deadsky and come to Texas 🙂
way to stand up Magpul. One day the democratic brainwashers will wake up and see the damage they have caused. kinda reminds me of the cronicles of riddik. Till underverse .
I'm going to buy a couple hundred dollars worth of mags from Magpul,they'll need the money when they need to relocate. If this little toad Salazar is a representation of democrat policies they need to leave for more favorable climates.
In other words, we don't like what you manufacture, we don't want you to sell it here, we want to ban your primary product across the country, but we want those jobs and tax money.
Come on over to Iowa!! Central shipping area… AND WE LOVE OUR GUNS!!!!
so glad I live in OKLAHOMA fuk them gun hating pussies.
Your money would have been better spent going to an event with Rick Perry, John Carter, or Ted Cruz. Texas is where you need to be.
Magpul, give 'em hell!!!
this is political suicide and plain old dumb. Not all Magpul employees are going to be able or willing to relocate and will be forced to go on unemployment if only for a little while. This will be a great burden on the state of Colorado. Not only will it miss out on tax revenues from the company but from the employees as well and now it has to support them.
Tell salazar to go cry elsewhere, the ban shouldn't had happened, just like a demacrap to back pedal when it affects them and their pockets…..
go MagPUL…..
That is repugnant, Salazar is.
i can assure you that if any part of this bill passes and Magpul stays, I will never buy another Magpul product or again. stay strong Magpul I love your products and would hate for that to happen.
If I were magpul i'd use the fact they want you to stay as leverage, say no ban or you go
Come to Roane County, Tennessee… Near the Smoky Mountains! We love our guns and have a Republican Governor, House & Senate… and no personal income taxes.
Yeah but you guys are in the south, and the south sucks!
“we think that these magazines are immoral baby killers, but hey, feel free to sell your baby killing devices to other states.” How wonderful (an Ironic) of a liberal to lecture of killing babies. Is Planned Parenthood's business still welcome in Colorado?
http://www.facebook.com/groups/MAGPUL2TN/
Its time to pack up and leave. They dont deserve Magpul in Colorado anymore.
Cali- East!
Thank you Magpul for holding our ground in support of our RIGHT!
And Colorado… Just….. makes my stomach sick….
what a dumb phuq
Texas – Utah – Arizona – Oklahoma – Arkansas – Wyoming…lots of options to get away from the reefer smokers….
wow this guy needs a helmet please leave and refuse to sell this state any and all police or security detail firearms ..other states would love to have the jobs and would probably treat you very well…
to hell with any of the Colorado legislature that voted for this bill. Would love to see Magpul come to the gun friendly, industry friendly, and growing Sunny south!
When everything is about money instead of morals…expect corruption. Sad
I would move out at a point. If Colorado residents can't purchase them, then Colorado shouldn't receive any financial support I.E taxes, and such from Magpul manufacturing magazines.
Like I said before, come to Fairbanks, Alaska.
Colorado is apparently as screwed up as California….bless you guys…Alabama is waiting with open arms and a willing labor force.
The people of Colorado need to follow Magpul's example and pull up and leave. Move to Idaho or Wyoming.
Your company is welcome to relocate to Texas. We'd love to have you.
another reason to leave the state that does not want you guys ….. TEXAS wants you
What a turd.
You had to donate a minimum $500 to some guy's political coffers?
Where's the new destination?
Hit them where it hurts, right in their wallets! Bye-bye Colorado, and to think I was planning to retire to that once-beautiful state.
Obtuse is more rampant than any firearms will be! ZEROS without a cause!
way to stick with it Magpul. I know other states will appreciate you. people need to understand, that reducing capacity isn't going to do a damn thing as long as evil is willing to do its work. If I had the means I would help fund you to move to another area. God Bless You.
I hope people remember this during the next election.
Robert Rumfelt I would happily buy magazines that Magpul appropriated from .gov sales! I love their products as it is, and if they stand up for what is right it's even more of a reasson to support them and push new business towards them!
and Magpul Walks… Give em hell guys.
money talks and bullshit walks
All in have to say is come to PA, would love to work for your company!
And still they wallow in the BS.
Give 'em hell, Magpul. We are with you 100%.
He wants your tax dollars . . . What a hypocrite.
Sometimes small donations are necessary to gain access to those in the political power circles.
$500 was the minimum required to attend a private dinner where Richard Fitzpatrick personally highlighted the economic benefits that company like Magpul gives back to Colorado.
In short, we gave him a valid reason to support a Colorado industry on a Federal level rather than just voting the party line on firearms.
Nevada?! The land that elected and re-elects Dirty Harry Reid? Come on, get real.
Oklahoma, here they come.
You, Sir, are absolutely right! Thank you.
it can't happen here. I have heard that so many times. and people who are saying it have :poop: between their ears.
You are so right again, Eric. WE are to blame for allowing decades of blatant infringement.
We're having the wrong discussion. Firstly, ALL of the existing restrictions and background checking and permitting is a violation of the Second Amendment, as is any and all proposed new legislation. The only reasonable restrictions that ought to be placed on adult Americans with regard to the possession of firearms is 1) the mentally unstable, and 2) those who have been convicted of committing a violent crime with a firearm. It is evident that the pro-gun control arguments of rank-and-file (liberal) voters are steeped in ignorance, so arguing with them about hunting and killing babies and statistics (which are on our side) is foolish. All of this rational is perpetrated by politicians who want an unarmed populace, period. Any and all legislators who propose gun control measures are enemies of the Constitution, period.
Ignore liberals' intellectually retarded arguments, and concentrate on these facts. The Second Amendment is in place to protect us from a tyrannical government. Only a fools think "it can't happen here." It is even more important that the Second Amendment be defended now, because President Obama and his crew are radical Marxists.
Is there going to be a "bag limit?"
There needs to be a concerted effort to deprive the State of Colorado tax revenue whenever possible. Denver is turning into some micro version of Washington DC.
It is clear that the "facts" unquote used by the Democrats in this debate were made up. They don't seem to care if more lives will be lost despite them saying "if it saved only one life." I don't think they care about public or private safety at all. I think they have a national agenda that will lead to gun confiscation as we are starting to see in California, Missouri, Michigan(?), etc. They lie thru their teeth and will not listen to facts as their ears have become deaf and their eyes blinded by their ideology. I just attended a seminar given by John Lott Jr (a TV expert on gun issues). His book "More Guns, Less Crime" fits the factual data that the more concealed weapons holders you have in an are the violence crime rate drops nearly 60%. It's just too bad that most of Americans are still on the pablum of the major networks and fail to do their own research. And it's too bad that someday you, one of your relatives, a friend or a neighbor maybe shot and killed because of this bad legislation. But oh, those legislators maybe able to carry weapons and not be sued for their dangerous legislation. —–> Read this article and take away this one message, "These radical Democrats are dangerous and they are after your guns… ALL OF THEM!" http://weaselzippers.us/2013/02/17/seattle-senate-bill-includes-home-inspection-as-part-of-gun-control-measure/.
They could relocate to Wyoming or Nebraska? Whatever it takes to deprive these socialist pigs in Denver of tax reveunes…..
Magpul should discontinue doing business with all government agencies and shift their efforts to filling only backorders from private citizens.
The good people of Colorado should help Magpul pack up their business and move to another state. If they cannot sell their products here because of the progressive pigs running amuck in the state legislature there is NO REASON TO STAY IN COLORADO. The Democrats have crossed the Rubicon with gun control.
If they outlawed gun ownership to Democrats (Because being a Liberal is a mental disease) and only allowed Right wingers to own…well…just think how safe we would be.
I would take the company out of state, and frankly if the government is banning them I would stop all sales to any government agencies, military, and law enforcement. If we cant have them, them fuck them too!
Supporting illegal aliens and going after Americans God given rights! You demonrats sicken me!
Hey Colorado Dems, how is that vote on Jessica's Law going? Oh yeah, I forgot. You voted it down because you support pedophiles, just not law abiding gun owners and manufacturers.
Leave it to dems to screw up yet again. 90%of these babykillers vote dem what does that say bout you guys
Pretzel logic.
come to Nevada! we have lots of wide open spaces for testing grounds and great weather!
Hey. We love to have here in the coal country of southern WV 🙂
Come on up to Casper, we'd love to have you!